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Greasy DeLorean Mechanic
02-04-2014, 09:59 PM
Just saw the movie "Her" in Fayetteville.

You all with your Blue Teeth and Smart Phones can kiss my butt. Adèle Exarchopoulos may not be perfect, but she did at least put her face in a real woman's place. Hell, even the actresses in Josh's porno put their faces in real women's places. I'm sure Siri is the hottest thing since Marcia Brady's bikini, but jacking off in bed while she whispers sweet nothings in your ear really is no way to live.

My cars may have carburetors and my computer is as old as Christmas, but at least I write my own damn love letters.

Kudos to the foul mouthed Pillsbury Dough Boy in Joaquin Phoenix's video game (and the video game housewife humping the refrigerator).

Bill Robertson
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stevedmc
02-05-2014, 10:53 AM
My five year old Dell laptop finally failed last week. I'm replacing it with another computer that is at least 5 years old, a Dell D620 with Windows XP Pro. New stuff sucks, including windows 8.

Not too bad for $46 shipped.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Latitude-D620-Intel-Core2-Duo-1-83GHz-2GB-NO-HD-Has-CD-RW-DVD-N2MS-00423-706-/161211800027?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&_trkparms=ga1m%3DT0%26ga2m%3DT0%26ga3m%3DT3%26ga4m %3DT4&nma=true&si=DM4CtAaBPUhGTZZcv4HiRWRgoMI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Greasy DeLorean Mechanic
02-05-2014, 11:30 AM
I was thinking more about Spike Jonze's dystopian indictment of devolving human relationships, but since you brought it up: I still travel with a Compaq Armada E500 (home computers are all Grampa boxes). A truly massive piece of hardware that is totally indestructible. You can throw it out a second story window and keep on computing.

If anyone else has seen the flick, please explain this: Theodore plays 3D holographic video games, yet his blonde haired friend is working on the Beta release of a video game that is pure Atari. Perhaps there are a few die hard old head holdouts even in the dysfunctional future.

Bill Robertson
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Duplicate Account
02-05-2014, 12:11 PM
There is far too much streaming media to go to a theater now. Besides rewatching classics on Roku, catching up on old TV series like Dexter, Netflix... no way would I go to a theater now. SE DC used to have a theater... it closed down... wonder why? Therefore, I'll comment on this thread in 6 months, when the movie is released to the (m)asses.

Greasy DeLorean Mechanic
02-05-2014, 01:21 PM
Fail -- there is no substitute for a big screen (I can't imagine what "Gravity" is going to look like on TV).

Fayetteville has an artsy fartsy theater with about 50 seats and a 30 foot screen (and Dolby surround sound of course). Puts you right in the middle of larger than life action. Adèle Exarchopoulos can say she didn't eat whatever she wants to say she didn't eat -- her tongue was projected several feet wide and my eyes do work.

Bill Robertson
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4359
02-05-2014, 02:17 PM
I enjoyed the movie. The video game that his neighbor was working on was just a further illustration to how absurd people have become in their day to day affairs. It was depicted as old hat because that was all which was needed to leverage the concept as a plot vehicle and simultaneously allow the actors to advance their characters' development. A holographic VR game would have detracted from the story telling because it would have been too attention getting all by itself. Having that, the conversation between Phoenix and Adams wouldn't have had as much impact for illustrating the emotional depth the characters would need so that the audience could properly empathize with them when their computer friends grew legs and walked out of the human puddle.

Greasy DeLorean Mechanic
02-05-2014, 04:22 PM
Computer girlfriends -- Amy's OS used to belong to Charles before he moved out (and I seem to remember she stated that it had a female voice). Which begs the question: was Amy having a lesbian affair with her OS?

Bill Robertson
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NightFlyer
02-05-2014, 05:08 PM
While I've yet to see Her, I find the buzz to be somewhat disingenuous. After all, isn't it little more than a story that has already been told numerous times in the past on the big screen? Case in point is a review by critic Todd Gilchrist, which he titles "Spike Jonze's sci-fi love story rethinks romance." Umm... I don't think so - it's already been done ad nauseum. Here's just a few 'falling in love with technology' or 'technology falling in love with humans' films that I can think of off the top of my head:

Blade Runner (1982)
Electric Dreams (1984)
D.A.R.Y.L. (1985)
Weird Science (1985)
Cherry 2000 (1987) (a personal favorite of mine)
Making Mr. Right (1987)
Circuitry Man (1990) (a personal favorite of mine)
Cyborg 2 (1993)
The Companion (1994)
Virtual Seduction (1995)
S1m0ne (2002)
Natural City (2003)

Not to mention several anime OAVs/OVAs, Twilight Zone, and The Outer Limits episodes.

And yet, the film world is acting as if Spike Jonze did something totally unique and different. Hardly...

Why is it that many modern film critics act as if the '80s and '90s didn't exist? To me, they represent the pinnacle of motion picture achievement.

Greasy DeLorean Mechanic
02-05-2014, 05:18 PM
Says the man who still owes me $25.

Bill Robertson
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stevedmc
02-05-2014, 06:29 PM
I'm so exited. Only a couple more days until I get my Windows XP computer. Not bad for $46 shipped.

4359
02-05-2014, 08:31 PM
While I've yet to see Her, I find the buzz to be somewhat disingenuous. After all, isn't it little more than a story that has already been told numerous times in the past on the big screen? Case in point is a review by critic Todd Gilchrist, which he titles "Spike Jonze's sci-fi love story rethinks romance." Umm... I don't think so - it's already been done ad nauseum. Here's just a few 'falling in love with technology' or 'technology falling in love with humans' films that I can think of off the top of my head:

Blade Runner (1982)
Electric Dreams (1984)
D.A.R.Y.L. (1985)
Weird Science (1985)
Cherry 2000 (1987) (a personal favorite of mine)
Making Mr. Right (1987)
Circuitry Man (1990) (a personal favorite of mine)
Cyborg 2 (1993)
The Companion (1994)
Virtual Seduction (1995)
S1m0ne (2002)
Natural City (2003)

Not to mention several anime OAVs/OVAs, Twilight Zone, and The Outer Limits episodes.

And yet, the film world is acting as if Spike Jonze did something totally unique and different. Hardly...

Why is it that many modern film critics act as if the '80s and '90s didn't exist? To me, they represent the pinnacle of motion picture achievement.


Retells would be more accurate than rethinks because there is absolutely no story under the sun that is truly new. At its core, "Her" represents a dystopian future where hipsters have taken over Seattle and make love to their computers. Just sticking to film as a medium, "Metropolis" is nearly a hundred years old and it depicted a man using a machine to replace his object of affection. It is a common theme but so is a film critic looking to bestow unique praise on an enjoyable movie.

Greasy DeLorean Mechanic
02-05-2014, 08:38 PM
... an enjoyable movie.

I actually found it somewhat disturbing. Came home and took a hammer to my antique flip phone. I'm now in the process of reading the Luddite Manifesto (in print of course).

Bill Robertson
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NightFlyer
02-05-2014, 08:40 PM
At its core, "Her" represents a dystopian future where hipsters have taken over Seattle and make love to their computers.

Future?!?!

Are you sure it isn't set in the present...

stevedmc
02-07-2014, 09:27 PM
I got my new to me used computer today and it is sweet. I'm on it right now and I love the thing. Its faster than my old computer and it only cost me $46.

4359
02-08-2014, 02:29 PM
I don't think I'd ever buy a used computer unless I could get a good deal on it. How much did yours cost Steve?

stevedmc
02-08-2014, 05:50 PM
My laptop cost me $46. It was a good deal. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/09/6u8azesa.jpg

tom kish vin.4357
02-08-2014, 10:14 PM
Hey Steve thats a nice computer!! how much it cost you???

stevedmc
02-08-2014, 10:29 PM
Do you want to know the price before or after shipping?

Farrar
02-08-2014, 10:44 PM
Laptops suck. Just build your own desktop machine. I've had the same case for ten years. I just keep replacing components one by one when they burn out.

I just got a digital camera that's ten years old. Works great. Just because something is new doesn't mean it's better.

stevedmc
02-09-2014, 11:36 PM
My laptop only cost $46. That is cheaper than most components for a desktop. Plus, my laptop came with a license for Windows XP.

Boglin
02-10-2014, 08:11 AM
I took my wife's HP laptop with me when i drove to DMCMW to autotune megasquirt on the way. Car made the trip. Laptop petered out somewhere between Indy and Chicago. I dont think it was rated for the harsh environment.

stevedmc
02-10-2014, 06:45 PM
You should replace it with a Dell D620. This one ends in about 15 minutes and the current bid is $14.99. Shipping is $14.95.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Latitude-D620-PP18L-Intel-Core-2-Duo-1-83GHz-2GB-DDR2-BIOS-LOCK-J434-/350990559417?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item51b8aae8b9

It even has a Windows license sticker on the bottom like mine. Mine came with Windows XP Pro and only cost $46.50 after shipping.

OverlandMan
02-11-2014, 12:29 PM
You should replace it with a Dell D620. This one ends in about 15 minutes and the current bid is $14.99. Shipping is $14.95.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Latitude-D620-PP18L-Intel-Core-2-Duo-1-83GHz-2GB-DDR2-BIOS-LOCK-J434-/350990559417?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item51b8aae8b9

It even has a Windows license sticker on the bottom like mine. Mine came with Windows XP Pro and only cost $46.50 after shipping.

Just an FYI for those who aren't aware, MS ends support for WinXP in a couple of months. That means no more OS updates or official MS support, which in turn means over time security can/will be exploited. It doesn't mean you can't keep using it. It just means do so at your own risk.

And to add to this, Server 2003 support ends summer of 2015 (July 2015 was the most recent date I saw on the MS interwebs).

Farrar
02-11-2014, 12:53 PM
I saw that.

(To wit: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help )

I'm still using XP on my desktop system, though. I tried Linux, but it simply didn't support my sound card properly.

OverlandMan
02-11-2014, 01:51 PM
I saw that.

(To wit: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help )

I'm still using XP on my desktop system, though. I tried Linux, but it simply didn't support my sound card properly.

Win7 x64 Pro & Ultimate is the best MS choice IMO right now. Win8 & the updated 8.1 is a turd, unless you want to play with touchscreen stuff and you have the supporting hardware. 64-bit architecture lets you run more than 4GB of RAM and benchmarks faster than x86 (32-bit) architecture.

I use Win7 x64 Pro for my side-business and for my workstation for my full-time job. But I have several Linux VMs running for various network monitoring and security systems at my office. Look @ Red-Hat distros, specifically Fedora & CentOS. They seem to have the best native support for hardware drivers (out-of-the-box; without the need to F with config files and spending hours on Google)

stevedmc
02-11-2014, 07:55 PM
Just an FYI for those who aren't aware, MS ends support for WinXP in a couple of months.

I think I read somewhere something like 30% of the worlds computers run Windows XP. Of ATM machines, 95% of them are running XP. That is a lot of computers. I see a nice class action lawsuit coming when Microsoft refuses to continue support of a product that works perfectly fine.

4359
02-11-2014, 08:02 PM
Seems frivolous to me but it would handy to have a precedent that would allow people to sue car manufacturers for not supporting automobiles they made 50 years ago.

stevedmc
02-11-2014, 08:04 PM
Seems frivolous to me but it would handy to have a precedent that would allow people to sue car manufacturers for not supporting automobiles they made 50 years ago.

My 49 year old Mustang is still drivable and I can still get parts for it. Shoot, I can get an entire body for it if I wanted to.

Greasy DeLorean Mechanic
02-11-2014, 08:22 PM
Just an FYI for those who aren't aware, MS ends support for WinXP in a couple of months. That means no more OS updates or official MS support, which in turn means over time security can/will be exploited. It doesn't mean you can't keep using it. It just means do so at your own risk.

I have never called Microsoft for anything.

I ran 98 (with Netscape) until 2007. For all intents and purposes it was virus proof because no one was interested in exploiting its antiquated file system. All the juicy pickings are going to be under the newer OS's. Kind of like breaking into my cars to steal my in-dash cassette decks (that's why I don't bother locking my doors -- I'd rather someone open the door to discover I have a cassette deck than break my window to discover I have a cassette deck).

I am going to ride the XP horse until there's a webpage I really want to see that my browser just can't support.

Bill Robertson
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tom kish vin.4357
02-11-2014, 08:56 PM
So did anyone here bid on Steve's Dell find?-------DUDE!! you could of had a DELL!! -----sorry it needed to be said

4359
02-12-2014, 01:54 AM
My 49 year old Mustang is still drivable and I can still get parts for it. Shoot, I can get an entire body for it if I wanted to.

My original post was more tongue in cheek than anything. You can buy parts for your car, as I can for my 59 year old family sedans, but Ford doesn't support the platform used for the 1965 Mustang. If you were to get into an accident in that car, and subsequently balled up like a tin can, you wouldn't have a lot of recourse against the manufacturer because they opted to not offer safety upgrades and recalls decades after it was made. Similar conditions exist for my BelAirs though I'd venture them not quite as safe as a Mustang.

I was only using the automobile example as a simile because of the nature of this forum though. There is actual precedent already set within the realm of information technology for operating systems made after the 70's. That's why the licensing always indicates that your use of the product is evidence of your agreement with the restrictions and regulations found therein.

Greasy DeLorean Mechanic
02-12-2014, 09:01 AM
... That's why the licensing always indicates that your use of the product is evidence of your agreement with the restrictions and regulations found therein.

You actually read that box before clicking the "I Agree" button?

(Sometimes I do wonder what I've agreed to over the years. Oh well, I don't really need two kidneys anyway).

Bill Robertson
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OverlandMan
02-12-2014, 09:12 AM
I have never called Microsoft for anything.

I ran 98 (with Netscape) until 2007. For all intents and purposes it was virus proof because no one was interested in exploiting its antiquated file system. All the juicy pickings are going to be under the newer OS's. Kind of like breaking into my cars to steal my in-dash cassette decks (that's why I don't bother locking my doors -- I'd rather someone open the door to discover I have a cassette deck than break my window to discover I have a cassette deck).

I am going to ride the XP horse until there's a webpage I really want to see that my browser just can't support.

Bill Robertson
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I hope you never have to call MS. They charge lots of $ for their phone support. Typically the folks who shell out the big bucks for MS support are system admins working on servers for business(es). The support most folks are concerned with is the fact that MS won't be releasing updates, which in turn means not addressing the vicious cycle of security vulnerabilities... meaning your browser, core operating system, etc are more likely to be hacked than my supported OS.

Truth be told if you want a PC that is less likely to get hacked, shell out the big bucks for a Mac. I bought my wife one and she's loved it.

I've worked professionally in technology for over 10 years. I have a full-time job that pays the bills and a side-business that helps fund my projects and hobbies (ie: the DeLorean!). Regardless of whether I'm working my day job or side-job, when someone asks me for PC support and I realize they're running an OS that hasn't been bundled with a new system since 2009 (5 years) and is 14 years old (XP came out in 2001), I usually recommend replacing the system ASAP. If I work 4-5 hours on a problem with an outdated OS running on outdated hardware, my labor is equal or higher than the cost of a new low-end consumer grade system. When folks realize that they typically heed my advice.

Cars and technology, or more specifically computers, are not comparable when it comes to service, parts, and repairs. If I wanted parts for an old desktop PC I used back in 1992, I'd be SOL trying to source from a vendor. Sure maybe I could find something used if I looked hard enough but I beg to ask the question "why"? Why run something slower that won't run newer software and repairing it would cost roughly the same as a new PC? Whereas if I had a 1992 Ford pickup (Ford is your brand right Bill?) and I needed parts, all I would do is go down to my local auto parts store. I could justify keeping an older vehicle running. Apples to Oranges.

Duplicate Account
02-12-2014, 11:55 AM
I've gone full tablet these days. What a relief to not have to deal with many of these issues on a day to day basis anymore.

Farrar
02-12-2014, 04:05 PM
I am going to ride the XP horse until there's a webpage I really want to see that my browser just can't support.

I have a feeling that Firefox will continue to run in XP just fine for a number of years.

4359
02-13-2014, 01:24 AM
You actually read that box before clicking the "I Agree" button?

(Sometimes I do wonder what I've agreed to over the years. Oh well, I don't really need two kidneys anyway).

Bill Robertson
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Yeah, I'm weird like that. I host my own videos and images because of the license agreement verbiage sites like youtube and imgur have.

stevedmc
02-13-2014, 06:08 PM
I just started a new job on Monday. On Tuesday I received my work laptop. Guess what OS it has. Windows XP Pro.

OverlandMan
02-13-2014, 06:46 PM
I just started a new job on Monday. On Tuesday I received my work laptop. Guess what OS it has. Windows XP Pro.

Wow - they must not like you very much. ;)

stevedmc
02-13-2014, 07:22 PM
Sams Club has windows xp on their customer service computers.

Greasy DeLorean Mechanic
02-13-2014, 07:40 PM
Big Lots gives its customers an abacus and a quill pen.

Bill Robertson
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Duplicate Account
02-13-2014, 09:38 PM
My "brother" word processor never got a virus. At 20 lbs and the size of a large suitcase it was a little inconvenient to take to class. But you have to admit, being able.to.save your class notes on a diskette is pretty hi tech

stevedmc
06-28-2014, 09:47 PM
Mom called today and said something about her laptop being broken. Since I don't feel like dealing with it, I've decided to get mom a "new" laptop.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Latitude-D620-Laptop-2-0GHz-Core-2-Duo-1GB-CDRW-DVD-Intel-Graphics-Proc-/231268232415?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=LpiE6wv0bNbv3S2sFg%252Fs7L9u6d8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Unfortunately the price of laptops seems to have gone up. I ended up paying $48.87 after shipping. I'll transfer her old hard drive to the new machine and she should be set after I bundle this laptop with a new battery and power cord.


In other news, Dad kept saying something about his desktop computer being broken. If memory serves me correctly, I declared his desktop to be broken five years ago and bought them a laptop. He decided to keep using the desktop and mom declared the laptop as her own.

I'm tired of hearing dad talk about his slow desktop computer that I declared broken years ago. Dad will be getting this "new" computer to replace whatever it is that he has.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181450613105?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1426.l2649

Boo
06-28-2014, 09:55 PM
Mom called today and said something about her laptop being broken. Since I don't feel like dealing with it, I've decided to get mom a "new" laptop.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Latitude-D620-Laptop-2-0GHz-Core-2-Duo-1GB-CDRW-DVD-Intel-Graphics-Proc-/231268232415?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=LpiE6wv0bNbv3S2sFg%252Fs7L9u6d8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Unfortunately the price of laptops seems to have gone up. I ended up paying $48.87 after shipping. I'll transfer her old hard drive to the new machine and she should be set after I bundle this laptop with a new battery and power cord.


In other news, Dad kept saying something about his desktop computer being broken. If memory serves me correctly, I declared his desktop to be broken five years ago and bought them a laptop. He decided to keep using the desktop and mom declared the laptop as her own.

I'm tired of hearing dad talk about his slow desktop computer that I declared broken years ago. Dad will be getting this "new" computer to replace whatever it is that he has.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181450613105?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1426.l2649

Steve that desktop is what we are using in the public school I work in. I'm sure the school paid Dell a lot more than that for them.